[KBibTeX] Answer to Syed's Posting

Thomas Fischer fischer at unix-ag.uni-kl.de
Tue Dec 6 07:12:51 CET 2005


Hello,

this is an answer to an email from Syed Irfan.

> Hmm the url name seems inclined towards a www reference, I would
> suggest to have url for the doi url and a separate one for FILE,
> If we keep this as standard like jabref will be good, they define
> file specifically to pdf, but the file might be a jgp/doc etc.
> and i guess the mime type will automatically correspond to the
> application setup in kde to run? i think.
Hm, may I'll add a new tab called "external references" (or similar) 
for url, pdf, doi, bibsource (used e.g. in DBLP), isbn/issn (to be 
opened with amazon.com). And, yes, KDE allows me to pass an url to 
the KDE subsystem, which opens the right viewer automatically.

> I like the jabref window styling, single click on a ref it shows
> its main content below, and double click it shows the formatted
> source.
I'm planning to add "mini windows" (I'm not sure about the correct 
KDE term) like in Kate for "Documents" and "Projects", which would 
show in KBibTeX for the currently selected entry (1) a preview 
(rendered HTML), (2) a table (read-only?) with key-value pairs and 
(3) a source view (read-only?).
I disagree showing the editing window directly inside the main 
window, as this would consume to much space and restrict resizing 
the window.

> As for renaming the files i guess 
title_with_underscores---authorname(firstnameonly)-separating-from-title-by-3'---'. 
> I guess if we adopt some standard like this will be great. Ohh for 
> the configuration for the name of the file, I guess we can provide
> a regex window where you can configure the style of renaming the
> file as example or kbibtex can provide some standard styles like
> the above for a user to select. If hes not satisfied he can create
> the regex expression so as to handle his style.
Maybe some techniques like use in juk to rename mp3s based on id3 
tags?

> I must also stress that the jabref's ui seems very sensible for
> kile to adopt. Especially one wants to see the source of the
> current selected bibtex entry usually not the whole bib file. If i
> wanted to see the whole bib file, which i sould be editing i would
> be using kile for example.
I cannot make comments on JabRef. For KBibTex embedded into Kile, it 
might be possible to open a file and automatically popup the 
editing dialog for some selected entry.

> Also I suggested to the Kile developers that the
> bib/tex/latex-tags be a little more visible, as the tags are not
> too visible in a big document. I have attached the suggestion jpg
> file.
> Hmm some sort of integration into kile to insert reference? when
> say selected in kbibtex and auto cite the name of the reference.
Please contact the Kile developers directly.

> Main thing. I would like to do some devel work with kbibtex, just
> itching to see some documentation on how to get started with the
> code. Probably you could writeup a document showing how to for
> example add like a window to show the source for the clicked bib
> entry as well as the places one needs to refer for the kde
> documentation etc. A guide would do good for those wanting to
> improve kbibtex.
Understanding someone's code is never easy. It takes enough time to 
program KBibTeX, writing a documentation would be to much 
work... ;-)
To get started, fetch the SVN snapshots, as here the kdevelop 
project files are included. KBibTeXPart is the central class, start 
here. To modify the UI, see functions setupGUI() and setupActions() 
and all related slots and functions.

> Thankyou for your all your development effort in making kbibtex.
np :-)

Greetings,
Thomas

-- 
You can eat everything that has four legs, except for tables.

http://www.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/~fischer/
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